I spoke with corruption expert Sarah Chayes on my podcast Under The Skin. Sarah is a journalist and has worked as a political advisor to the US Military and Pentagon. Her books include On Corruption in America — And What Is at Stake. In this clip we discuss what is it that is causing this relentless division in society, is it the media to blame? What can we do about it? Sarah and I have some ideas. You can listen to the rest of my podcast with Sarah on Luminary here: luminary.link/russell
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